Trey Anastasio on the Magic and Power of Open-String Suspensions (2024)

Trey Anastasio on the Magic and Power of Open-String Suspensions (1)

When the headmaster of Phish School says, “The guitar is simultaneously the dumbest and the most amazing instrument ever,” he’s referring to the fretboard layout in standard tuning. Instead of ringing out harmoniously like an open tuning, standard is essentially “closed” and unharmonious.

At least in the keys of E, A, and D, the root note is on a wound, open string. Incorporating any open string adds resonance, and can create tension and suspension. Trey Anastasio refers to that as a “rub.” He’s got a new solo acoustic album out, Mercy, and in last month’s Frets feature Anastasio revealed the depths of his rub obsession. We scratched the surface near the end of the interview and saved the details for this deeper dive.

Finding Rubs

Anastasio says, “Doing solo acoustic shows is great for revealing where all the rub notes are on open strings that you may or may not include for a chord in various positions up and down the neck, just by the way you pick.

"You want as much sound as possible, so you want to include as many open strings as possible. I’ve got into the habit of looking for those by doing solo acoustic shows because you get into a mentality that’s like, How can I get more sound out of this thing?”

Make It Easy

“A lot of those rubs are in the standard vocabulary. I live by a rule put forth by Joe Pass, who is the greatest chord melody player who ever lived. He said, ‘Never play anything hard,’ and what he meant was ‘hard to finger.’ Why? His theory was that you’re going to practice that and then want to play it, and now you’re not playing music anymore.

"Watch his hands when he’s playing with Ella Fitzgerald. The way he would just drop in a note is amazing. David Rawlings does the same kind of thing with Gillian Welch, and I love to do it too. ‘Arc’ is a great example from Mercy. That song is not hard, but it sounds hard. All of the work was in, How can I do this without it being hard?”

Put it in Play, Rub Away!

“For example, you can get a full G plus rubs by using just two fingers in the 10th position. Put your third finger on the root G at the 10th fret and your second finger on the B at the 9th fret of the fourth string. The open G and B are right above on the next two strings, and the high open E is the 6th. There’s a rub you can choose to use or not, either by not strumming all the way through or by using the pinkie to mute it.

"By the way, drop the pinkie on the 10th fret of the first string and you’ve got a full, open-sounding G chord. Move the whole thing down a step, to F, to find even more interesting rubs to choose from.

“Another great example is when you take a standard open C and slide everything up a whole step. Now you’ve got a D with a half step rub in it, the F# on the fourth string rubbing against the open G on the third.

"That’s one of my favorites, and you can hear it on ‘Billy Breathes’ [from Phish’s 1996 album of the same name]. Now raise that C shape another step and a half, to F, and listen to that G string rub in the middle. I love that. Rubs galore, rubs all day long. Let it rub, brother, let it rub!”

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How does Trey Anastasio get his tone? ›

First off, Trey doesn't use his wah all the time. Second, the key to trey's tone is his Ross Compressor coupled with his Ibanez TS-9 tube screamer. If you want the closest you can get to the original ross and vintage ts-9. Keeley Electronics makes some amazing products.

What gauge strings does Trey Anastasio use? ›

Anastasio strings his electrics with DR Tite-Fit 10-46 strings and uses chunky 2.0mm Adamas graphite picks.

What kind of acoustic guitar does Trey Anastasio play? ›

Trey Anastasio plays a Languedoc guitar, which he shows off in this video at (0:10). "It's a long scale length...the length from the nut to the bridge is the same as a Strat," Anastasio said. "I wanted it to have the bite of a Strat and the kindof meat of a hollowbody...so the body is completely...

What is the scale length of Trey Languedoc? ›

Languedocs are unique for many reasons, one of which is that they have a 25.5″ neck scale like a Fender Stratocaster or Telecaster but dual humbuckers like a Gibson Les Paul, 335, or SG.

What tube screamer does Trey use? ›

Photo by Rene Huemer. When he's not using high gain amplifiers, Trey uses multiple gain stages to create his signature sound. Perhaps the most important stages — and key drivers of this sound — are the two Ibanez/Maxon TS-9 Tube Screamer Pedals “stacked” atop one another in his signal chain.

Does Trey use reverb? ›

Trey runs two Ventris Dual Reverbs as well as a pair of Way Huge Supa-Puss Delays in the loops.

What gauge did Dimebag use? ›

They also stay in perfect tune and remain fresh and bright for an amazingly long time." For those wondering, the original Cowboy From Hell would use gauges 9-42 for standard tuning, 9-46 for dropped-D and 11-50 for the lowest tunings.

What gauge strings Kirk Hammett? ›

“So what I use is the three top strings are from a 10 set and then the bottom three strings are from a 48 set. And the reason for that is, you know, as a lead guitar player, I need to be able to like bend out the light strings. And if I have 11s on, I notice that over the course of a tour, my hand gets fatigued.

Is Trey Anastasio good at guitar? ›

Anastasio's electric guitar technique is largely conventional; he does not typically make use of tapping techniques and does not usually play slide guitar (an example of when he does is in the Oysterhead section of Les Claypool's 5 Gallons of Diesel) but is known to be competent at both techniques.

What speakers does Trey use? ›

Currently Trey is using a “naked”, i.e., uncovered Bruno cabinet. It matches the woody appearance of the Trainwrecks and also vibrates a little more freely without the extra tolex and glue. It's loaded with a single G12-65H speaker, as per Trey's usual preference.

How many Languedoc guitars does Trey have? ›

of koa for the top and back, and maple for the neck. warms my heart. The perfect guitar for 2021. This is the 10th guitar I've owned that Paul has built.

What size scale is a Gibson Les Paul? ›

Gibson uses a scale length of 24+3⁄4 inches (630 mm) on most of its electric guitars, including the ES-335, Les Paul, SG, Flying V, and Explorer.

Where are Languedoc guitars made? ›

Languedoc Guitars - Hollow body guitars built in Vermont by Paul Languedoc.

How do you get reggae tone? ›

If by “reggae sound” you mean the upbeat staccato strum on guitar, you can get it on acoustic or electric by palming with your strum hand and lifting off with your fretboard hand to form a rhythmic pattern. Don't let the strings ring out. And strum down, not up on the strings.

What makes up guitar tone? ›

Strings and Tuning

New strings always offer improved tone, as old strings rust and dull out over time. Different gauges of strings lend a noticeable change in tone too, as do altered tunings. A simple half-step detune can really fatten up your sound.

What kind of music is Trey Anastasio? ›

Trey Anastasio Band
GenresRock, jazz fusion, progressive rock
Years active1999–present
LabelsElektra Records
Spinoff ofPhish
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